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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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completely blind computer geek, lover of science fiction and fantasy (especially LitRPG). I work in accessibility, but my opinions are my own, not that of my employer. Fandoms: Harry Potter, Discworld, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, Buffy, Dead Like Me, Glee, and I'll read fanfic of pretty much anything that crosses over with one of those.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir If you can get that model working in rust, as just another ECI dll, I'll add it as a back-end and turn that from a checkbox into a combobox. Because it would literally mean almost no extra code for me. Just load the host, or openevv.dll, or eci64.dll. My addon even already asks a dll what sample rates it will provide when I load it. So at that point you could offer whatever sample rates you wanted with no aditional code in eloquence_64.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Could be. The primary reason I didn't do that, and created eloquence_64 at all, was because I couldn't figure out how to get it working. But if I had, it would have just been literally a one-line change to all existing eloquence addons to load a different DLL file. It still! feels like that should work, and is the way it should be done. I'm just not smart enough.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir The thing I've always wanted to do is just create ECI64.dll. It would have exactly the same functions as the 32-bit ECI, and would just use IPC to pass on the calls between the two different dll files. So an app can just call ECI64.dll if it's 64 bit, or ECI.dll if it's not. Either way the code would be identical, as ECI64.dll would handle all the bridging.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Another thing you could do, if you wanted to be done with RS sooner: using serde_pickle you should be able to create a rust host that communicates with eloquence_64 exactly the way the 32-bit Python host does. Then change your extension into something that just replaces the 32-bit Python host with a rust host when it's installed. That way we share literally all other code. I literally have a hook that can call a different executable as the host process. So it requires either a one-line change or no change on the eloquence_64 end of things. I don't know where or how you do resampling, so I have no idea the effects there.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Also, falling back to ECI for a single language isn't an issue. That's already what eloquence_64 does. It asks at startup what languages OpenEVV supports, then falls back to ECI for a language not included. I see a world where English gets better and better, and people slowly step by step switch over to OpenEVV. Then Spanish improves, and another group switches, etc. That's why I put it in the way I did. I don't think there'll be a single day where "Everyone uses OpenEVV now!" It'll probably happen over months and years, until we suddenly say "Hey, is anyone using ECI anymore? No? Okay, let's think about removing it."
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Now that we know what a ruleset looks like, what fields it has, and how it's stored, it may well be possible to pull it out of the eloquence files.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Also, someone did create a tool to convert all espeak rules into openevv rules. But he wouldn't accept it, both because of licensing issues, and more because the project just isn't ready to have like 150 semi-working languages at this stage.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir I know he's already done some work on adding Polish as a language, in order to learn what adding languages not already in viavoice will require.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Sounds like a plan.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Yeah, we could do that as well. I actually have used nano-gpt.com in the past, though, and they're reliable. In that case it was because OpenAI wanted my ID for age verification and I wasn't interested in giving them my passport.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick Can you access nano-gpt.com? They offer the claude and gpt models, and they take payment via cryptocurrency. It's quite possible to configure either claude code or codex to use nano-gpt.com, so no problem there.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Yeah, that makes sense. Once I can get employed again I'm happy to throw a bit in the hat. Just...not until then, sadly. Though I do have prospects, so we shall see.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick Nick, how are you fixed for tokens? If Amir puts together the list, I'm tempted to just have Claude grind away at it and just submit a bunch of PR's to openevv. Unfortunately I'm between jobs, so three quarters of my tokens go to formatting resumes and stuff.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Honestly someone just needs to find a way to get Amir access to Claude Code or Codex. He could quickly fix so many things; he knows exactly what needs to happen and why in most cases.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir I can see that actually being a useful thing to do. Bestspeech is a much simpler engine than eloquence, so someone could probably learn and practice a lot of useful techniques on it. And I think it's more about...thoughtfulness than disciplin. Something it takes every good programmer (or every good person) years to learn. He does seem to stick with things and keep grinding away on them. But like, if you're not spending more time thinking about your changes than actually making your changes, well, you'll add that extra sample rate setting that nobody needs.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick Same. I was sort of hoping that the ViaVoice quirks would either be fixed or made configurable, before any sample rate stuff happened. I think mudb0y just has so many people asking for so many different things right now, but hasn't quite developed the skill to say "no" or "later" to anyone. If I were him, I'd work with someone (even a non-programmer) to help him prioritize all the different things, develop a roadmap, and be the one to say "we're not doing this now, see the roadmap" for him, so he can focus on the actual work.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick The way it was added is also quite buggy. I was able to work around the issues, but I'm hoping at least this one gets fixed. github.com/Mudb0y/openevv/issues/45
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick Yes, it is. The only way to hear it is with good headphones. And once you do hear it, you'll wish you didn't. And viavoice has a bunch of strangeness with inflection. Turning it down removes some of the extra pauses. So I suspect the period thing is related to that somehow.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick If you turn breathyness up you'll hear it.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick The only difference is the "s" sounds. I can absolutely hear it with headphones and it's grating.
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