@fastfinge

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@jdking92 @Rosalyn @Bri To make all of this so, so much worse, every single fediverse server provides a plain text, non-html version of the post. Tweesecake and FastSM and others just refuse to use it. But if you look in the JSON, you'll find that while the content key contains HTML, _misskey_content and source.content both contain perfectly formatted, plain text versions of post content. FastSM and other clients just ignore them and strip HTML themselves, breaking posts and resulting in constant bitching from blind people. browser.pub/https://fed.interfree.ca/notes/ah4xrewupfr5jqja

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Bri @jdking92 @Rosalyn Some can also just post HTML directly. Either way, when you strip the HTML, you get the link text, without the URL. Usually, the link text is the URL without https in front. But it doesn't have to be. GoToSocial, Akoma, Iceshrimp, Pleroma, Sharky, threads, Lemmy, PiFed, and literally anything other than Mastodon allow for text in the post that is a hyperlink, but does not contain the URL as the link text. Even though Mastodon doesn't allow posting like that, though, it can display that type of post. So because of the way FastSM strips HTML, it can only find links posted by another Mastodon server. Every other server type can post links that FastSM users can neither see 'nor interact with. Even Mastodon forks can do this. As someone effected daily by this issue, because it's completely and totally impossible for me to post links that tweesecake or FastSM users can interact with, no matter what I do, this is a huge priority for me. Only supporting logging into a Mastodon server account is one thing, and I get it. But the way FastSM is currently, you only support viewing posts by, and following, users who happen to also be on Mastodon. If you follow an account using literally anything else, links won't work. And it's impossible for a FastSM user to know they've followed an account on an unsupported server type. It's to the point where I avoid posting any links at all, because every single link I post gets multiple replies (sometimes as many as thirty or more) from blind users who do not understand that the client they use is at fault and in complete violation of the standards, not me. I'm one hundred percent following the standards as defined by the W3C and all of the Fediverse Enhancement Proposals. Clients that can't handle formatted links are broken. They need to be fixed. I've had to start just blocking Tweesecake users. I don't want to have to also do that with FastSM users.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@J3317 @stevenscott Yeah, we're getting down to minus 37 with the windchill tonight.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@SeveraSnape Hmmm, I can't even see news. So you're getting farther than me.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@stevenscott What about your Canadian friends? Eh, we're used to it. LOL JK

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@SeveraSnape Yeah, just says "Redirecting..." and never loads. Not just you.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Tamasg Speak for yourself! This voice I made that just makes high pitched squealing noises that causes weird harmonics in my headphones is exactly what I wanted. Now I have an on demand headache generator. Perfect for work meetings I'd rather not attend! LOL JK

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Tamasg Yeah, that's what I'm fiddling with. Just made everything worse, though. haha.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Tamasg Almost like the energy from the pulses is too narrow somehow? Maybe. Hmmm. If you change the sample rate on IOS, eloquence develops a weird lisp. So this tells us that whatever they're doing depends on the weird sample rate to sound good.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Tamasg It's amazing how different 11025 sounds. Also makes Adam sound way better, and benjamin way worse.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@greengaybles Maybe an icemaker? At least they make ice much faster than a tray in the fridge. You can purchase some stand-alone decent ones for not too much money. Plus when they're making ice they have a loud fan noise. So that might work as a reminder of what you're doing.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@jdking92 @Rosalyn I just wish they'd get the same issue with links that tweesecake had sorted out. A lot of posts that absolutely have links it says have no links and you have to use the clipboard. I filed an issue with some approaches I think would work and an offer to make a pr, so we shall see.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Rosalyn I'm using it right now. It still has some issues that make it not quite ready for primetime. But they all seem quite fixable.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Tamasg Hah. Sample rate changes were the next thing I was going to suggest. We think alike, apparently.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Rosalyn I think it's probably because the windows clients are falling further and further behind. TWBlue doesn't support polls. Tweesecake still has a bunch of issues and no updates in like a year. Even if people liked web clients, Enafore still has issues with notifications and not updating timelines sometimes. On top of that, Mona on IOS and mac released a new paid version, so people would have to subscribe to it; it's not a one-time purchase anymore. If FastSM ever gets off the ground, or TWBlue gets the promised updates, activity will probably go back up a little. But if FastSM becomes the won, it also supports bluesky, so we might see the community split a bit now that they have a choice.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@spacepup Maybe avoid using Google Drive to share this sort of thing. They're extremely strict on copyright, and the link is already gone: "We're sorry. You can't access this item because it is in violation of our Terms of Service.
Find out more about this topic at the Google Drive Help Center."

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Tamasg I think so. Next thing to do is build similar tools for eloquence, to make doing side by side comparisons of the exact same phonemes easier. Then we can rapidly do listening tests, instead of switching back and fourth in NVDA, and having to compare the entire system.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@WeirdWriter @skye The issue with HTML is that a lot of browsers these days will refuse to download HTML, and will just open it. For less techy people, actually saving an HTML file they got from a link can be challenging. And markdown is fine on desktop, but I'm not aware of anything on mobile that allows navigating by headings in a markdown file. Personally I'd say epub. There are free programs on all the platforms that can open epub, browsers just download it by default, making accessible epubs is as easy as making accessible html, and it will work for blind and sighted alike so you don't need to create two different documents.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@skye Properly tagged PDFs can work, but depending on how the PDF is generated, getting the tagging done correctly can be anything from slightly tricky to impossible. But if you go with epub, it's pretty much the same as generating accessible HTML. A lot easier.

🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

1mo

@Tamasg Yeah, NV Access never really took it beyond the prototype stage. But then a butchered version got added to espeak, so now in everyone's memories, we remember Speech Player as having more features than it did. And it's totally getting a bit better with every update. But the problem is, as long as eloquence keeps working, everyone will just use eloquence. But if we don't start this work now, when eloquence is finally gone for good, we're all going to be screwed.