A matter of curiosity means that I just had to make an #NVDA poll about speech/braille, so here it is. What do you use more than anything else in your list of options? for non-NVDA users, even if you only use it for 3 seconds a week, do join in.
@simon@Onj I can listen to eloquence and read Braille when I'm writing. So I can hear the start of my typing and read the end of it, for example, avoiding the need to either scroll the braille back or wait for the speech to finish.
I can also not at all process 2 eloquences. They just overlap and my head kinda explodes.
@cachondo@simon Then you have ultra-annoying people like @fastfinge who can hear Eloquence at some insane speed and speak as it's going on. Why he didn't become an amazing interpreter and speak untold amount of languages better than anyone else I don't know. Would've made an absolute killing.
@Onj@cachondo@simon Because I’m terrible at languages. Repeating is easy! But unfortunately other languages use different words for everything! And sometimes they put them in the wrong order! I can’t get on with that at all rofl. Seriously, I think I have the same problem with language that I do with music: my ability to memorize sounds is absolute crap. I can only remember words if I know what they mean; I couldn’t repeat Spanish eloquence at all. And remember and play a sequence of notes? Forget it!
@Onj I did, i'm one of the currently 79% eloquencers. Although I do Braille quite often, I do eloquence more simply by virtue of reading whilst having occupied hands. Dishwashing, mostly. Dusting sometimes.
@Onj@mcourcel@fastfinge@cachondo@simon not surprised at the overwhelming count towards Eloquence I guess, still shows just how well that synth has held onto power despite its age. Kind of ironic considering we do have more neural options available, and yet people just still gravitate towards it. I too can do that thing where I read outloud what Eloquence is saying at about rate 32 with "rate boost on" set for me, but I had to learn that as a skill for when I did radio broadcasting in college. I would read the news article with one earphone in and speak out what it said, since I found Braille made too many finger-cell noises when I read on-air. Maybe speaking Hungarian helps not sure but it's a good skill to have in the belt.
@Tamasg@mcourcel@fastfinge@cachondo@simon I know Eloq will win, it just seems to be a thing. I'm not one who ticked it. I never grew up with it so have no love for it personally.
@Onj@mcourcel@fastfinge@cachondo@simon oooh the one that's missing from the list is Nuance / Vocalizer. It's the one I would have still picked as my "second choice" mainly because in terms of clarity and really solid 22K audio quality, nothing can beat it. (It's also why I have my eloq at the 22K sample rate over the 11K, I now find it too harsh on my ears when wearing headphones which is interesting.)
@pixelate@Tamasg@Onj@mcourcel@fastfinge@cachondo There's a 22k ViaVoice. If there's a 22k Eloquence I certainly don't know about it. I stopped using ViaVoice because of some other weirdness, and you have to register it on new machines for some reason. But the addon does support it.
@Tamasg@Onj@mcourcel@fastfinge@cachondo@simon The Neural options aren't, quite, mature yet. Except maybe the Azure ones. I could see those. Sonata just has too many glitches and oddities, plus slowness, to be used as a mainline synth. I can't even use it for reading fanfic because its pauses are either wildly long or don't exist.
