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My resolution: 2025 will be the year I find a way to get eloquence out of all my workflows.
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Matt Campbell @matt@toot.cafe
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@fastfinge Why? Do you not like Eloquence, or do you feel you need to let go of it because, at least on PC, it's basically dead?
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@matt I love eloquence, and depend on it for my productivity. But now that codefactory eloquence is abandoned, I won't be able to use it with the next NVDA Update. And there is no way work is approving IBMTTS or Threshhold or any of the other hacky solutions. There's also talk of moving us to ARM laptops, where even those solutions won't run. So I have to start trying to move away while I can still take it slow.
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Matt Campbell @matt@toot.cafe
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@fastfinge I don't see why those solutions wouldn't work on ARM laptops. Windows on ARM can still emulate x86.
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@matt Because NVDA is native ARM. So the Addon can't load the eloquence DLL files. I've tried it on an ARM virtual machine on mac. No go. I guess they'd have to do some kind of RPC the way the Sonata neural voices handle it.
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Matt Campbell @matt@toot.cafe
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@fastfinge Oh wow, I thought the main NVDA process was still x86 32-bit.
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@matt It's still X86 32-bit on X86/X64. But my understanding was that running on the Surface RT laptops and getting listed in the Microsoft Store required them to switch over to ARM Python, because the early RT laptops that only ran Windows Store apps didn't support emulation.
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@matt It's also possible that something in the Eloquence DLL files isn't emulating correctly, and my understanding could be wrong. But either way, eloquence doesn't run on an ARM Virtual Machine, Windows Emulation or not. Maybe Windows only emulates 64-bit not 32-bit X86? No idea.
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Matt Campbell @matt@toot.cafe
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@fastfinge Unless the ARM laptops are going to be running Windows 11 in S mode, you don't have to install NVDA from the store. Just install the normal version from the website in your VM and all should work.
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Lynette @lynessence@caneandable.social
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@fastfinge I feel stupid asking this, but what is an ARM laptop? Sucks that you have to give up Eloquence. I know you like it.
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modulux @modulux@node.isonomia.net
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@fastfinge Wow, sounds hard. Mind if I ask why?
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@modulux Because I want to do it on my own time. Rather than be forced to do it when NVDA goes 64 bit. Or work converts us to arm laptops where eloquence won’t run.
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modulux @modulux@node.isonomia.net
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@fastfinge Ah, fair point. Best of luck! What are you going to use instead, have you decided yet?
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@modulux Not sure yet. Looking into espeak, but it sucks on iOS. Maybe rh voice? I hate how muddy vocalizer sounds so not that. Maybe I give up on having the same voice on all platforms? I’m open to ideas!
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@modulux Also code factory eloquence won’t get updated. And there’s no way work will approve IBM tts.
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