@mcourcel@quanin@fastfinge@dhamlinmusic Oh you mean while you're writing all kinds of AI music? Lol but seriously, I agree. I'm worried about the long-term effects on both the planet and our children.
@lynessence@dhamlinmusic@quanin@mcourcel I'm kind of not? Like, they didn't need AI to elect a fascist government to our south. AI might make things slightly better, or slightly worse...but mostly it'll just make things different. We didn't need AI to lose trust in the news media. Covid and vaccine conspiracies were alive and well before GPT. Bitcoin and cars were already destroying the environment. Cheap kids crap on YouTube was already destroying brains. AI is either a cure or a null factor.
@fastfinge@lynessence@dhamlinmusic@mcourcel I mean, all of those things are bad, absolutely. But this drive to lean on AI like people want us to is making us lazy in ways YouTube can only dream of. People at least used to google shit 5 years ago. Now they just ask GPT and GPT googles shit.
@quanin@dhamlinmusic@lynessence@mcourcel Nah, five years ago they used to ask on mailing lists for someone else to Google Shit. The lazy people were always, and will always be, lazy.
@fastfinge@quanin@dhamlinmusic@mcourcel This is truth. I work in customer service, I have people calling me all the time to fill out Google forms that are perfectly accessible. But then they tell me "but I'm blind and this is inaccessible", and I secretly laugh at them in my head because they don't know that I am also blind and in filling the form out for them.
@lynessence@fastfinge@quanin@mcourcel See I have run across this more than a few times, something should be accessible, but the entity that created it only tested it on something like JAWS with Firefox, or Voiceover with Safari, and it falls apart when you show up using Talkback on Edge, or Narrator on IE11.
@dhamlinmusic@fastfinge@quanin@mcourcel These are folks who are using windows with jaws or NVDA, and I know Google forms are accessible with those screen readers. I am using a Mac, which is usually more troublesome and less accessible.
@pixelate@dhamlinmusic@fastfinge@quanin@mcourcel I have heard that, but I've never run into any issues myself with DocuSign. But I suppose there are probably multiple ways to format a document and some are probably inaccessible.
@lynessence@dhamlinmusic@fastfinge@quanin@mcourcel I seem to remember one where the form fields weren't labeled, so it wasn't clear what it wanted me to enter. But then I could be remembering one the many PDF's I've had to look through at work. I absolutely hate PDF's.
@pixelate@dhamlinmusic@lynessence@quanin@mcourcel But making accessible PDFs is possible! All you need is fifty thousand hours of training directly from Adobe, two software packages nobody has ever heard of before, and for making accessible pdfs to be your full time job. Either that or you could just hire one of the people from the thousands of ads I get in my Linkedin messages every day from companies nobody has ever heard of who specialize in pdf remediation.
@fastfinge@dhamlinmusic@lynessence@quanin@mcourcel And then I take those PDF's and either convert them to something else or run them through AI if they're image ones. Of course if I have to make them accessible PDF's I just use Word to save as PDF or something. I wish the format hadn't been invented and people used EPUB for readonly files. Or HTML. Or something.
@pixelate@fastfinge@dhamlinmusic@lynessence@quanin@mcourcel PDF's aren't bad if you have a truly accessible way to read them, and Paperback does that for me anyway! I've only hit it with a few PDF's so far but it presented the information just fine when Chrome couldn't even open them. Granted, I don't know if any of them contained images and how it handles those cases, but I bet somebody in this thread does!
@fastfinge@dhamlinmusic@lynessence@pixelate@quanin@mcourcel No it can't, and I have mentioned that to Quinn but also pointed out that it wouldn't strictly be a reader anymore, but they would still be very useful features and don't think I got a response so maybe they're just busy with other features and life and will get around to it at some point.
