@arfy@fastfinge Hey hi! I still use mIRC with the mIRCSpeech plugin. Sure, the plugin hasn't changed in like 20 years, but neither has the JFW or presumably NVDA API.
@quanin@arfy I mean technically, the NVDA API has changed. But nobody uses the new functionality. I honestly wish I still had the code for sjams that me and @cachondo worked on years ago. It was my favourite incarnation of that concept, and would probably still work honestly. Just needs NVDA added.
@fastfinge@arfy@cachondo I mean, probably technically so has the JFW API. It's been 20 years, after all. But the old functionality still exists, apparently, because I've been using it for 20 years. LOL
@quanin@arfy@cachondo So don't ever lose mircspeech. It's not on the internet anywhere anymore. Like totally gone. What version are you using? Is it the one by The Fudge and Mo/Ace? Or is it the one with my name on it? or the talking IRC one, Or the one Sean refactored? If it has my name on it please do feel free to dump it on github just so it's not lost forever.
@quanin@arfy@cachondo Is it bundled with a version of mIRC? Or does it install into an existing version of mIRC? If it's bundled with mirc, it's not mine. If it installs into an existing mIRC, it's either mine or Sean's. The one good thing about github, these days, is that abandoned projects stay there. This was long before github even existed LOL.
@fastfinge@arfy@cachondo It installs into an existing mIRC version. I explicitly avoided the bundled version because I do remember if you ever updated mIRC for any reason that thing hit the floor.
@arfy@cachondo@quanin The installer is probably NSIS. So unzipping it instead of running it should get you the source. Or just send it to me and I'll make it a repo LOL. It still works and it should be online somewhere.
@fastfinge@arfy@cachondo Yeah, I'll give it a repo later today. I might see if the readme is somewhere on my machine and use that as the basis for the readme.md GitHub looks for.
@quanin@arfy@cachondo If it's anywhere, it'll be part of the installer when you unzip it. It might have also been dumped into your mirc directory in program files as well. Good grief this is making me feel old. Pretty sure as a teenager I touched, in at least some small way, every single talking IRC solution that ever existed.
@fastfinge@arfy@cachondo Okay, ReadMe located and yes, your name is definitely on it. It goes on GitHub later today. IF I don't feed you a repo URL by tomorrow AM, you have my permission to slap me.
@arfy@fastfinge@cachondo It should absolutely all work. It's a pretty basic program and I've tested it on JAWS versions as recent as 2025. No reason the NVDA API should behave any differently.
@fastfinge@arfy@cachondo What message types are those? And I assume that would just be a matter of updating the scripts and repackaging it. I just haven't seen any to test.
@fastfinge@arfy@cachondo Well, once I throw it up on GH later if you want to update it, I mean it's partially your code. Just send me the new installer and I'll add it to the repo. Or give you access, whichever.
@quanin@arfy@cachondo lol I think I forgot everything I ever new about Mirc. Also, all the old irc hangouts I knew of are dead dead. So I’ve got nowhere to test.
@quanin@arfy@cachondo I keep wanting to bring irc back in our community. But there’s just no good accessible iOS client. So it’s dead in the water.
@fastfinge@arfy@cachondo I don't even know how you'd make IRC accessible on iOS. Or even Android. On iOS in particular VO would be tripping over itself every time someone posted something new. You'd have a hell of a time doing anything.
@fastfinge@quanin@arfy I have a vague memory of using mIRC with SJAMS on windows 10, but that could really have still been with JAWS or even SAPI if I was using NVDA by that point. I can't see how that old SJAMS code interfaced with NVDA at all.
@cachondo@arfy@quanin I have similar memories. But they're so vague I can't put a finger on them. I find it hard to believe that nobody did NVDA support for mIRC, though!
@fastfinge@cachondo@quanin I'm not sure where mo's gotten to these days, but I'm sure he, or I, at some point, got mIRC and his TalkingIRC script working with NVDA, via a mirc layer to toke. That's all i can think of.
@arfy@fastfinge@cachondo Welp, I'm one of these days going to sit down and see if I can't rewrite the version I have in Python and call it good. Accessible Output 2 should cover JAWS, NVDA and SAPI if needed.
