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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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So because I have gone temporarily off my rocker, I'm working on an client using 10 and WPF, with artalk-xmpp for XMPP, libsignal for , and prism for screen reader output where needed. I'm only an evening into it, and I can already tell that OMEMO is going to be the source of complicated, inexplicable, and unreproducible bug reports for decades to come. It's still not as overcomplicated as , though.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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OMG what am I even doing This is a huge project it's going to need Jingle and that needs WebRTC and then file transfers and voice messages and oh also localization and sounds and hotkeys and settings and multi-account support and Oh God. even with AI this will take fifteen years why did I get out of bed today and choose this for myself
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Only 3 Easy Payments of $19.95 @feld@friedcheese.us
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@fastfinge there's always Delta Chat which solved almost all of these problems already :)
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@feld I dropped Jami and signal from my life for the same reason. “Just use the official clients” is not an open protocol. Not even if the client and server are open source.
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@fastfinge you're completely wrong we have third party clients and more coming all the time

github.com/trufae/parla

lambadalambda.github.io/estuary/

Unreleased tui client by @jae
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@feld @jae Nope. These are just running deltachat-core or libdeltachat, from what I can tell. If I want a library in C#, there is none. If I want to write my own library in C#, without depending on deltachat-core, I can't. There's no list of RFCs I can look at, nothing like xeps or IRCV3 caps, etc. It's just "use our library".
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@feld @jae If I would like to propose a change to the standard, the only way I see to do it would be submitting a PR to libdeltachat. There doesn't seem to be any standards process outside of that. That is not an open, standards-based protocol. That's just "using someone's thing and building on it".
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@fastfinge @jae if you want a change, write an RFC. That's why Autocrypt v2 is an RFC.

Emoji reactions? Its an RFC.
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