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Jeffrey D. Stark @jstark@tweesecake.social

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so there are 2 eloquence add ons for NVDA that have emerged in the last few weeks or month... what are people's experience with these? I'm playing with both and am starting to get a few thoughts but nothing I'm ready to share...

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Liam Erven @lerven@tweesecake.social

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@jstark I actually like Nick's a lot. He fixed an issue which I hope gets fixed in NVDA core eventually.

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Jeffrey D. Stark @jstark@tweesecake.social

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@lerven what is the name of that 1?

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Liam Erven @lerven@tweesecake.social

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@jstark Eloquence64RS

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Jeffrey D. Stark @jstark@tweesecake.social

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@lerven lol; damn that means i have a 3rd eloquence to download... LOL

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Liam Erven @lerven@tweesecake.social

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@jstark I only know of one which Samuel had been working on for a good long while

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Jeffrey D. Stark @jstark@tweesecake.social

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@lerven there's also open eloquence

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Liam Erven @lerven@tweesecake.social

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@jstark First I'm hearing of it. Honestly I'm sticking with Nick's. I have an edge case where I need to switch sound cards. NVDA core sometimes struggles with synth settings leaking between sound card switches if you use the same synth. Nick fixed it on RS. RS also has an upsampling mode from 11 KHZ to 22 KHZ. I have completely destroyed hearing, so the extra highs really help me.

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Jeffrey D. Stark @jstark@tweesecake.social

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@lerven URL?

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Liam Erven @lerven@tweesecake.social

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@jstark github.com/Nick6489/Eloquence64RS/releases

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Martin @mcourcel@allovertheplace.ca

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@lerven @jstark I wonder if that's a fork of @fastfinge version? His is now at v20.

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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

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@mcourcel @jstark @lerven Yes, it is. It rewrites the 32-bit bridge in rust, and does upsampling. I refused to accept the upsampling PR because it's vibe coded and I couldn't understand how it works, as well as bringing us too far from original eloquence to make me comfortable. I didn't accept the rust rewrite because I can't read rust at all, it was AI coded, and so I can't understand or proof it. Nothing against AI coders; more power to them. But I refuse to release code under my name that I don't fully understand and can't explain if asked.

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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca

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@jstark @lerven @mcourcel To clarify, I do use AI to help with my eloquence addon. But just as a time-saver. All the code it spits out is read, understood, and approved by me. If I don't understand some part, it gets removed, explained, or re-written until I do.

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