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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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Re: my last boost. Why are we supposed to be moving away from Github anyway? Mastodonians like to move away from apps and services for all sorts of reasons. I'm not up on the latest tech bro drama. I mean, organizational failures.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@Rosalyn Mostly because it had major downtime multiple times a month, for the last three months. And Microsoft keeps adding copilot to it, that nobody really wants. So everyone is afraid they're doing the typical "embrace and extend" that Microsoft is famous for, while also enshitifying it.
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@fastfinge Whoa! Copilot? And Github?... In the same sentence... I think I just died a little inside.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@Rosalyn Yeah, it's all over github in the web interface now. And plus, they want you to pay for it.
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@fastfinge ... Why would they go this route? Talk about brand squashing. I think I'm feeling the quivalent of tech sick.
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Tom Grant @TomGrant91@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @Rosalyn I've never been asked to pay
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@TomGrant91 @fastfinge Well you may not be doing anything that would prompt you for a premium payment. I wonder what they're charging for precisely. Or their payment scheme just may not have hit the UK yet. If so, lucky you.
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Tom Grant @TomGrant91@tweesecake.social
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@Rosalyn @fastfinge I'm just downloading NVDA-add-ons. Never really done that chat thing, I just skip to the heading on the releases page and boom, find the assets and download what I want
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@TomGrant91 @Rosalyn Yeah exactly. But there's two links and a button at the top of every single page, for anyone signed into github. So developers see it constantly. And again, just one press of the button by mistake gets you endless emails and ads about it.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@TomGrant91 @Rosalyn If you ever press the chat with copilot button at the top, even once, by mistake, you'll be enrolled in a demo. Then once it expires, you'll get emails for months asking you to sign up.
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@fastfinge @TomGrant91 Ah. So they're not so great at letting the user opt out. Got it.
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Tamas G @Tamasg@mindly.social
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@fastfinge yes this! I fell into that trap. What's worse is that having Copilot for Office 365 does not give you any rights to Copilot in GitHub. So like, you sign up and could be paying out the wazoo for various flavorings of copilot. Quite fun when money is but a click away from a monthly scraping. @TomGrant91 @Rosalyn
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@Tamasg @fastfinge @TomGrant91 Ah. So this is bigger than just copilot is crap. Even if you opt into copilot, it has to be the right flavor or it's of no use on the platform. Jesus.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@Tamasg @TomGrant91 @Rosalyn Right! And for extra fun, copilot in github just gives you the right to use it, plus some small amount of tokens. Once you actually try to do anything real with it, you will be charged for tokens on top of the copilot for github subscription. And that, of course, is on top of your copilot for office subscription. And then you're probably also paying for a One Drive subscription; that's an entirely seperat bill. And if you want code signing, or to publish apps to the Microsoft Store, you have to sign up for yet another, completely different, Microsoft subscription on top of all of the above.
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Tom Grant @TomGrant91@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @Tamasg @Rosalyn yououououououch!
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Joshua @J3317@allovertheplace.ca
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@fastfinge @TomGrant91 @Rosalyn Oh wow
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Steve @sclower@stranger.social
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@Rosalyn @fastfinge It's been developer hell.
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@sclower @fastfinge Has it really? Since when?
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Steve @sclower@stranger.social
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@Rosalyn @fastfinge Ever since they started trying to shove Copilot down our throats in 2024.
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@sclower @fastfinge Wow. This has been going on for two years? Holy cow!
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@Rosalyn @sclower They've been careful to only bother developers. To make sure everything looks fine to users who don't program. So when developers decide to move, now users are also annoyed because they have to sign up for yet another account and learn yet another website to report bugs, and the users have no idea why.
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@fastfinge @sclower This just sounds like one giant mess.
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Tristan @tristan@hachyderm.io
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@Rosalyn @fastfinge @sclower GitHub wants to be the place that vibe coders use, at all costs, including the cost of their infrastructure and reliability. The fact that that they still provide what amounts to Windows, Linux and Mac VMs with GitHub Runners for free is some kind of masochism that only Microsoft is capable of. Especially with LLMs pointing vibe coders at them if they want tests, and the users not knowing where to push back. They went from something like 1 billion commits in the entire year of 2025 to 275 million per week in 2026. Something will have to give at some point. Hopefully sooner than later so we can get it over with.
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Rosalyn Anne @Rosalyn@mindly.social
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@tristan @fastfinge @sclower They should have made a separate platform for vibe coders. Not brand mix. Ugh!
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Drew Mochak @prism@infosec.exchange
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@Rosalyn @tristan @fastfinge @sclower I believe the main issue is that people are afraid their code will be used to train Copilot/chatgtp. Also there has been a pretty large amount of vibe-coded PR spam or outright code stealing initiated by AI's.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@tristan @Rosalyn @fastfinge @sclower Yes yes, GitHub actions building my vibe coded iOS apps, how convinient :P
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garo @garo@social.leons.cc
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@tristan @Rosalyn @fastfinge @sclower That also was the cause of the outages, their load balancers simply colapsed. They can afford to gift compute away like that because they own Azure and thus their internal costs are much lower than as if an external platform would have to build the infrastructure first or go to AWS or something. Although you have to keep in mind a lot of people probably build tools in private and as such are heavily limited by their 2000 minute cap which is basically nothing in terms of costs,. It will also bring a lot of subscribers in, if you can afford Claude pro you also can afford Github pro and maybe Claude convinced you. Investors also will see that opportunity and as such Github even earns passively. It's not a loss for them although they're probably quite strained right now even with a huge fleet of datacenters as backbone.
Now time to take a look at the original poll.
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