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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick My worry is that too many checkboxes will confuse 99 percent of users, and then we get to spend the rest of our lives answering questions about why resampling doesn't work, or what that checkbox is for.
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Nick Giannak III @nick@hkc.social
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@fastfinge Which is why if I were you, I wouldn't implement it in the Eloquence addon. What lives in EVV upstream doesn't have to live in the addon. @amir
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Okay, sounds good. I was just checking to see if there was some reason I should that I hadn't thought of.
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Nick Giannak III @nick@hkc.social
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@fastfinge Yeah, your users will never hit this edgecase because we're not using SoundBlaster PCI 64 cards on Windows Melennium. @amir
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Second commit to work around openEVV bugs that could crash all of NVDA. It's in and working, and sounds absolutely horrible to me. github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/commit/838b9eb116a5e70e379f760e7eb96a377ee740b8
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Amir @amir@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @nick Yeah I have it. But here 11025 and 48000 are the same. This shows how much @nick's Presence contour is useful.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick If you turn breathyness up you'll hear it.
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Amir @amir@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @nick Oh yeah! Damned got it! But compared with what we already have in other Eloquence 64 variants, or even in the older IBMTTS driver with ViaVoice, it's terrible.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick The way it was added is also quite buggy. I was able to work around the issues, but I'm hoping at least this one gets fixed. github.com/Mudb0y/openevv/issues/45
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Amir @amir@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @nick Honestly - and as I see it now and even as someone who sort of likes higher sample rates, the major issue holding openevv back is related to maddeningly troublesome ViaVoice quirks. Oddly enough, some appear to prefer ViaVoice to Eloquence. But I'm not one of them.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@amir @nick Same. I was sort of hoping that the ViaVoice quirks would either be fixed or made configurable, before any sample rate stuff happened. I think mudb0y just has so many people asking for so many different things right now, but hasn't quite developed the skill to say "no" or "later" to anyone. If I were him, I'd work with someone (even a non-programmer) to help him prioritize all the different things, develop a roadmap, and be the one to say "we're not doing this now, see the roadmap" for him, so he can focus on the actual work.
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Nick Giannak III @nick@hkc.social
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@fastfinge I really want to be wrong. Amir, you might actually be the most discipline out of the lot of us in documenting Eloquence behaviors, as it's part of your roll re: community dictionary. Can you write up all the differences you can find? It might be a good idea to create these in an issue and call them as regressions - given what Sam's Dad has to say about working at IBM, I'm comfortable with that designation. @amir
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Honestly someone just needs to find a way to get Amir access to Claude Code or Codex. He could quickly fix so many things; he knows exactly what needs to happen and why in most cases.
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Nick Giannak III @nick@hkc.social
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@fastfinge That's an idea we should keep in our hats for now. Weirdly, I'm a touch hesitant that we should be digging in just yet because Stanislaw's agents already have processes and I'm not convinced they're documented in a way we can yet follow. At least, the docs intimidate me a bit anyway. If Stanislaw becomes unmoved for a time after the docs, then we'll talk about figuring out how to give Amir computing power to take a run at this. @amir
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Yeah, that makes sense. Once I can get employed again I'm happy to throw a bit in the hat. Just...not until then, sadly. Though I do have prospects, so we shall see.
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Nick Giannak III @nick@hkc.social
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@fastfinge Yeah, I myself would feel more comfortable committing to someone's Claude Max for a month come Q1 27. Sam, you and i can discuss beforehand how to get around any possible geoblocking, E.G. putting a VM somewhere. @amir
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Yeah, we could do that as well. I actually have used nano-gpt.com in the past, though, and they're reliable. In that case it was because OpenAI wanted my ID for age verification and I wasn't interested in giving them my passport.
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Nick Giannak III @nick@hkc.social
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@fastfinge Regardless, @amir, document defects first. Let's give Stanislaw time to dig in himself. If he doesn't, then the three of us will.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Sounds like a plan.
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Nick Giannak III @nick@hkc.social
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@fastfinge Also, let's be on the lookout for someone who might do something similar for Finnish. ...God, I wonder what Ol' Stan's plan for that is, because that's gonna have to be reverse engineered all by itself. @amir
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@nick @amir Also, someone did create a tool to convert all espeak rules into openevv rules. But he wouldn't accept it, both because of licensing issues, and more because the project just isn't ready to have like 150 semi-working languages at this stage.
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