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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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Hey @adam I'm hearing reports that Bell Fibe now issues IPV6 addresses via PPPOE over VLAN 37. I'm not set up to easily test this. Have you heard these rumblings? Can you test it? So that would make it vlan 35 for IPV4, vlan 36 for TV, and vlan 37 for IPV6 I guess.
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Adam MacLeod @adam@adamm.cc
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@fastfinge Ooo! I had not heard that. Do you have any source links? Is VLAN37 a dual-stack configuration? I host a bunch of stuff here, so taking down the connection isn't as simple as it seems. But if some how this can be confirmed to be true and working, I certainly will reconfigure.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@adam it was a reddit thread. Let me track it down. 37 is IPv6 only apparently,. And then 35 remains v4.
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Adam MacLeod @adam@adamm.cc
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@fastfinge Ok, that's a weird way of configuring things. I do not believe that the XGS-PON to SFP+ with MAC functions stick that I am using to bypass my modem will talk on two VLANs at once for the Internet side. I wonder how they're doing it in the Home Hub modems? Very interesting indeed.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@adam My TP-Link router will. I'll try and test this over the weekend.
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Adam MacLeod @adam@adamm.cc
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@fastfinge Ok, sounds good. Looks like the custom firmware can talk on an Internet VLAN and a services VLAN, so maybe I could configure it that way. But its an active community, so if this turns out to be accurate, and the configuration Bell intends to deploy to production permanently, I'm sure the firmware developers will add functionality to set two Internet VLANs.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@adam So the thing that got me investigating was the outage this morning. Were you effected at all? I was not, but my neighbors and several workmates were. The one commonality seemed to be that they were using gigahubs, and everyone I know who was unaffected were using PPPOE passthrough or another bypass for the bell modem. Bell later released a statement that the outage was caused by a router update. Also, we already know they use multi-vlan in production. TV is vlan 36. That's probably why your firmware supports a services vlan; without it, Bell TV wouldn't work. Documentation of that: www.reddit.com/r/bell/comments/l96qne/bell_fibe_internet_tv_and_phone_with_pfsense/
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Adam MacLeod @adam@adamm.cc
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@fastfinge Nope, didn't see an outage. But the modem is bypassed. I wonder if perhaps this update to the Bell Home Hubs was to reconfigure for this IPv6 deployment?
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@adam And some more on vlan tagging at bell: www.reddit.com/r/bell/comments/gtiuhb/comment/fzr3wh9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

And LOL that you didn't even notice. So many thousands of customers were effected it even made CBC today:
www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-canada-service-outage-1.7539810
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Adam MacLeod @adam@adamm.cc
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@fastfinge Interesting stuff indeed. Thanks for the links. I didn't see anything in that reddit post about VLAN 37, and the original post looks to be five years old, and I believe misleading. I think what the OP was confusing is IPv6 inside the LAN, vs. on the WAN, when it came to the HomeHub settings. I've been all over that modem's interface within the past five years, and saw nothing about WAN IPv6. So I think Reddit is being Reddit, a bit like AI, ya neverk know what you're gonna get. But looking forward to hearing results of your experiments for sure.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@adam Yes, the OP was confused. But a later comment mentions vlan 37. Also this comment, though also old: www.reddit.com/r/bell/comments/q607a2/comment/hg9btdl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

That I only found because I started looking into it today.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@adam What I suspect is that they're doing this vlan nonsense because they eventually intend to charge extra for IPV4, or sell cheap V6 only access for EOT devices. Or maybe use carrier grade NAT on V4 for cheap connections, and charge extra for a real V4 address. Something like that. Because we all know Bell doesn't do anything unless it can make them a buck.
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