@adam So the thing that got me investigating was the outage this morning. Were you effected at all? I was not, but my neighbors and several workmates were. The one commonality seemed to be that they were using gigahubs, and everyone I know who was unaffected were using PPPOE passthrough or another bypass for the bell modem. Bell later released a statement that the outage was caused by a router update. Also, we already know they use multi-vlan in production. TV is vlan 36. That's probably why your firmware supports a services vlan; without it, Bell TV wouldn't work. Documentation of that: www.reddit.com/r/bell/comments/l96qne/bell_fibe_internet_tv_and_phone_with_pfsense/