@Tamasg Disappointing, but okay. An eloquence rewrite is a 30 year project. At least. You're stopping for the same reason NV Access themselves stopped: this is a massive undertaking. It's a bit frustrating to me that everyone who takes this on so massively underestimates how hard this will be, then quits when they don't have something in weeks or months. If we're going to succeed we have to be into this for decades.