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So I never could get on with Matrix. It's slow, the clients are annoying, and the servers are hard to run. Back to it is! Feel free to add me for some old school instant messaging: fastfinge@im.interfree.ca.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge That snikket thing you huse to host it seems quite cool and simple. Are you just using their official mobile app? Is it accessible?
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@jonathan859 The web console is fully accessible. For apps, I'm using miranda-ng on Windows, and Monal on IOS and mac.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jonathan859 Holy crap Miranda NG. Now there's a name I've not heard in a while.
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@pixelate @jonathan859 It's still maintained and updated. It can do Discord and Steam now.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jonathan859 Oh wow, that's pretty cool.
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@pixelate @jonathan859 It's so refreshing to use a thing that's not a bloated web app honestly. And if you set up the contact list for blind folks during install it's fully accessible. Even reads out messages as they come in.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge @pixelate I've downloaded the Disscord zip file. Yeah RTFM would be an option, but where do I have to put the files to get this working?
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@jonathan859 @fastfinge @pixelate It apparently does WhatsApp now too? and telegram? wow I haven't seen mirandaNG in years!
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@MariahL @fastfinge @pixelate Wow wow what WhatsApp?
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@jonathan859 @fastfinge @pixelate I just looked, apparently it does. I don't know if it works or not but I'm curious now.
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@MariahL @pixelate @jonathan859 It does. I just find dealing with QR Codes so, so fiddly.
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@jonathan859 @pixelate @MariahL Yup! You have to scan the QR code though.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @jonathan859 @pixelate aw. man. the only downside.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@MariahL @jonathan859 @fastfinge Lol like one of those old friends that's a welcome surprise to see.
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@pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 time to get @FreakyFwoof to start updating his accessible Miranda distribution again. With Whatsapp and Discord and all.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @pixelate @jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof you know I was looking for that thing so I could at least do the base stuff and then add whatsApp discord and steam to the plugins.
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@MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 Heck it even supports Microsoft Teams now. And has a plugin for voice calls.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 How well does it handle things like discord. Honestly discord's interface is what's keeping me from doing more with it. I'm on the hearthstone access server and a few other ones and would love to interact more but gah, discord.
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@MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 So it handles them pretty well. The problem is the awful hCaptcha thing. As usual with discord. If it fails, you need to log in with your browser, do the captcha crap, then log in again with Miranda, and it should work.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 HCaptcha is why we can't have nice things.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@MariahL @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate The WhatsApp plugin wants me to replace a file in libs, it somehow can't though, apparently it's in use. Is that important?
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@jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL Probably. You have to close Miranda before copying those files.
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@jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL You can also go to options, then plugins, and it has an interface that will install them for you.
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@MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 Amusingly Facebook is the only thing I can't get working. Discord, Teams, Steam, XMPP, Whatsapp, everything else is fine. But Facebook just won't sign in.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 Holy hell I remember briefly using Miranda back in the day. I may need to give this a look if it supports whatsapp and stuff. Anything I need to be aware of when setting that stuff up? I'm not that familiar with xmpp things and would hate to break the universe.
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Not really. Whatsapp doesn't use xmpp at all. Xmpp is just an open messaging protocol; XMPP is to Whatsapp what Mastodon is to Twitter.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Ah, ok. Are there any specific plugins I need to make whatsapp and other stuff work? Not sure if I'll get discordd working with it because h-captcha, but I'd love to use a decent thing for whatsapp.
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 If you go into options, then go to plugins in the tree view, there's a list of available plugins. Whatsapp is one of them.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Oh right on. Thanks for that!
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Does it matter which of the xmpp services I go with when registering?
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Not really, know. You can talk to anyone on any other service.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @MariahL @jonathan859 Oh hey, doesn't Jabber use XMPP? So then, Emacs has one built in that already works with Emacspeak!
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@pixelate @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @MariahL @jonathan859 Yeah, jabber and xmpp are the same thing.
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Alex Chapman @alexchapman@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @pixelate @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @MariahL @jonathan859 Hmm, I wonder if I should try and make some adjustments to my Thrive Messenger project to make that an XMPP compatible thing. Currently its using some basic messaging thing in Python lol.
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@alexchapman @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Yes. Then it can communicate with people who don't use thrive.
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 You can get an xmpp account at xmpp.is if you don't want to host a server yourself.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@MariahL @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate Hmm, so I entered my Discord E-Mail and Passwod, but what now? In the tray it just says Discord disconnected, but I can't see any auth page or 2FA request or anything.
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@jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL You have to open miranda, go to the status menu on the menu bar, find the discord submenu, and set the status to online.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL Oh, interesting. At least it asks me now. Even though it says my code is invalid, which is clearly not the case.
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johann @johann@jkt.social
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@jonathan859 @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL So where do you get this thing, and the plugins to make stuff work.
And how do you make it accessible?
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Andre Louis @FreakyFwoof@universeodon.com
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@fastfinge @MariahL @pixelate @jonathan859 I got signed into discord no captcha at all. Was surprised. Hadn't updated Miranda in years, so it did a bunch of things but nothing crashed or burned. Does it only show DM's not servers? Would make my life easier if it did.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @MariahL @jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof Ugh those were the days! Zip file on my flash drive so I could chat with Facebook friends at the blind school.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@pixelate @fastfinge @jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof oh my god yes. For me it was a portable copy and some fiddling to get passed my school district's wi-Fi filters so Miranda could get through.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@MariahL @fastfinge @jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof Oh goodness yes, the portable version. I wasn't smart enough to handle filters at that age, I still thought if I copied JAWS from the school computer's program files folder I'd have my own personal copy of JAWS. :)
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@pixelate @fastfinge @jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof lol that. does not work that way :p
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@MariahL @fastfinge @jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof Yeah, sadly it didn't. :)
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Andre Louis @FreakyFwoof@universeodon.com
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@fastfinge @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 I think the build is still on my programs page so it should just run and can be updated just like that.
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johann @johann@jkt.social
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@FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 It's no longer on 3.onj.me/programs/ when I checked.
What settings do I need to change to make it work best with screen reader anyway?
I got Telegram to work, but its reading messages weird and it keeps hiding the window wverytime I alt tab out of it.
Also, Discord keeps asking for a 2-fa code, but it keeps saying invalid code LOL.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@johann @FreakyFwoof @fastfinge @pixelate @MariahL Yeah don't worry, I have the exact same issues and wondering the same here.
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@jonathan859 @pixelate C:\Program Files\Miranda NG\Plugins
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Alex Chapman @alexchapman@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jonathan859 @pixelate I just caught up on this thread, damn I heard of this thing but thought it was abandoned, might have to look into it, and maybe even one day make a plugin for my upcoming thing called Fedi+
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Gina @NightDrake@dragonscave.space
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@pixelate @fastfinge @jonathan859 Where do I get the Miranda-NG from? I loved that program back in the day.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@NightDrake @fastfinge @jonathan859 Try miranda-ng.org/
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge Honestly I like this. Gotta fix my docker reverse proxy thing for the web console and then I'll start using this.
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@jonathan859 Add me if you want. fastfinge@im.interfree.ca.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge Going to do that as soon as I've fixed the container, there is already a web server running so gotta use that as reverse proxy.
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@jonathan859 Remember that it wants to manage its own letsencrypt certificates. So you have to proxy both http and https for it. You can't just rewrite https. That got me.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge Dude, Delta Chat protocol? This app seems to be an absolute banger!
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge Is it enough if I put the web-portal container in my docker proxy network? Oh I should clarify, I run caddy as my reverse proxi, in docker as well. Or do I also need to put the certs thing in there for whahtever reason.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge The problem I'm having is that my caddy runs in docker, and for some reason won't proxy the web portal, I'm getting a 502 error. I also see that in the logs the cert container fails to get the ssl certs, so guess that's a bigger deal I have to mess around with tonight.
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