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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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So I never could get on with Matrix. It's slow, the clients are annoying, and the servers are hard to run. Back to it is! Feel free to add me for some old school instant messaging: fastfinge@im.interfree.ca.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge That snikket thing you huse to host it seems quite cool and simple. Are you just using their official mobile app? Is it accessible?
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jonathan859 The web console is fully accessible. For apps, I'm using miranda-ng on Windows, and Monal on IOS and mac.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jonathan859 Holy crap Miranda NG. Now there's a name I've not heard in a while.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@pixelate @jonathan859 It's still maintained and updated. It can do Discord and Steam now.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jonathan859 Oh wow, that's pretty cool.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@pixelate @jonathan859 It's so refreshing to use a thing that's not a bloated web app honestly. And if you set up the contact list for blind folks during install it's fully accessible. Even reads out messages as they come in.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge @pixelate I've downloaded the Disscord zip file. Yeah RTFM would be an option, but where do I have to put the files to get this working?
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@jonathan859 @fastfinge @pixelate It apparently does WhatsApp now too? and telegram? wow I haven't seen mirandaNG in years!
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@MariahL @jonathan859 @fastfinge Lol like one of those old friends that's a welcome surprise to see.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 time to get @FreakyFwoof to start updating his accessible Miranda distribution again. With Whatsapp and Discord and all.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @pixelate @jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof you know I was looking for that thing so I could at least do the base stuff and then add whatsApp discord and steam to the plugins.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 Heck it even supports Microsoft Teams now. And has a plugin for voice calls.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 How well does it handle things like discord. Honestly discord's interface is what's keeping me from doing more with it. I'm on the hearthstone access server and a few other ones and would love to interact more but gah, discord.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 So it handles them pretty well. The problem is the awful hCaptcha thing. As usual with discord. If it fails, you need to log in with your browser, do the captcha crap, then log in again with Miranda, and it should work.
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Andre Louis @FreakyFwoof@universeodon.com
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@fastfinge @MariahL @pixelate @jonathan859 I got signed into discord no captcha at all. Was surprised. Hadn't updated Miranda in years, so it did a bunch of things but nothing crashed or burned. Does it only show DM's not servers? Would make my life easier if it did.
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MariahL @MariahL@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 HCaptcha is why we can't have nice things.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@MariahL @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate The WhatsApp plugin wants me to replace a file in libs, it somehow can't though, apparently it's in use. Is that important?
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL Probably. You have to close Miranda before copying those files.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL You can also go to options, then plugins, and it has an interface that will install them for you.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 Amusingly Facebook is the only thing I can't get working. Discord, Teams, Steam, XMPP, Whatsapp, everything else is fine. But Facebook just won't sign in.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @MariahL @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @jonathan859 Holy hell I remember briefly using Miranda back in the day. I may need to give this a look if it supports whatsapp and stuff. Anything I need to be aware of when setting that stuff up? I'm not that familiar with xmpp things and would hate to break the universe.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Not really. Whatsapp doesn't use xmpp at all. Xmpp is just an open messaging protocol; XMPP is to Whatsapp what Mastodon is to Twitter.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Ah, ok. Are there any specific plugins I need to make whatsapp and other stuff work? Not sure if I'll get discordd working with it because h-captcha, but I'd love to use a decent thing for whatsapp.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 If you go into options, then go to plugins in the tree view, there's a list of available plugins. Whatsapp is one of them.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Oh right on. Thanks for that!
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Does it matter which of the xmpp services I go with when registering?
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Not really, know. You can talk to anyone on any other service.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Ah cool. I'm just trying to get passed the captcha thing on the registration thing now. Ugh. I really hate this thing.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Not all of them have one.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Oh, right on. Was just trying to register for xmpp.is. That one has one so far. Let's see if I can find one that doesn't.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Oh, I didn't realize it did. Sorry!
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Yeah, xmpp.is has it, along with xmpp.chat and so far, xmpp.co as well.
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Devin Prater ​:blind:​ @pixelate@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @MariahL @jonathan859 Oh hey, doesn't Jabber use XMPP? So then, Emacs has one built in that already works with Emacspeak!
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@pixelate @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @MariahL @jonathan859 Yeah, jabber and xmpp are the same thing.
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Alex Chapman @alexchapman@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @pixelate @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @MariahL @jonathan859 Hmm, I wonder if I should try and make some adjustments to my Thrive Messenger project to make that an XMPP compatible thing. Currently its using some basic messaging thing in Python lol.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@alexchapman @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Yes. Then it can communicate with people who don't use thrive.
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@fastfinge @alexchapman @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Yep, looks like all the subdomains on xmpp.is have the HCaptcha thing. Oof. May have to find another service to sign up for since I've no idea how to host a server. Me and server shit don't mix.
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Alex Chapman @alexchapman@tweesecake.social
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@jdking92 @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Uggghh I've said it a lot, but I'll say it again: Fuck, H, Captcha!
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Joseph King @jdking92@dragonscave.space
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@alexchapman @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 This. All of this. It's horrible.
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Alex Chapman @alexchapman@tweesecake.social
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@fastfinge @jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 Good point, I will have to look into that, its in Python so would need to find an XMPP lib.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jdking92 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL @jonathan859 You can get an xmpp account at xmpp.is if you don't want to host a server yourself.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@MariahL @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate Hmm, so I entered my Discord E-Mail and Passwod, but what now? In the tray it just says Discord disconnected, but I can't see any auth page or 2FA request or anything.
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🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦 @fastfinge@interfree.ca
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@jonathan859 @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL You have to open miranda, go to the status menu on the menu bar, find the discord submenu, and set the status to online.
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Jonathan @jonathan859@someplace.social
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@fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL Oh, interesting. At least it asks me now. Even though it says my code is invalid, which is clearly not the case.
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johann @johann@jkt.social
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@jonathan859 @fastfinge @FreakyFwoof @pixelate @MariahL So where do you get this thing, and the plugins to make stuff work.
And how do you make it accessible?
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